Brendan O’Neill discusses his new book, "After the Pogrom: 7 October, Israel and the Crisis of Civilisation".

https://reason.com/podcast/2024/12/04...

0:00 Introduction
1:16 O’Neill’s new book: "After The Pogrom"
5:48 Hamas is religious extremist movement
11:10 Islamism as extreme rejection of modernity
16:57 Is being antiZionist punk?
18:40 The ‘cultural appropriation’ of the Keffiyeh
21:17 Is Israel a white settlercolonialist state?
24:28 When did the left turn against Israel?
28:53 Is antisemitism connected to anticapitalism?
32:30 The demonization of Israel
33:40 Palestine as the Omnicause
35:34 The madness of Queers for Palestine
39:29 The catastrophe of postOct. 7 progressivism
43:34 Did Oct. 7 accelerate the collapse of wokeness?
46:40 How much should the west be supporting Israel’s war effort?
51:28 O’Neill’s political evolution
53:21 How gay liberation differed from the trans movement
58:22 Today’s young activists seek institutional approval
1:00:50 How Marxism & Trotsky influenced O’Neill
1:04:14 Critics of Zionism in 1930s40s Europe

Today's guest is Brendan O'Neill, chief political writer for Spiked and the author of the bracing new book, After the Pogrom: 7 October, Israel and the Crisis of Civilisation.

O'Neill and Reason's Nick Gillespie talk about the response in the United Kingdom and the United States to Hamas' attacks last year, Israel's ongoing military actions, and what's likely to come next in a postwoke world. "On October 7," says O'Neill, "the progressive left went from 'believe women' to 'believe fascists.' They took Hamas at its word over the testimonies of raped women."

They also discuss whether O'Neill's politics have changed over the years. At the start of his career a quartercentury ago, he was an unapologetic man of the left—a selfdeclared Trotskyist, in fact. But these days he seems to make more common cause with conservatives and libertarians. "My rallying cry remains the same," O'Neill insists. "Increase the power of man over nature and decrease the power of man over man."

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