In this indepth interview, Jared and Camille share their intertwined journeys through faith, family, and personal growth within the Mormon Church. They discuss formative experiences, from Jared’s basketball career and mission (under Jeffrey Holland and Brad Wilcox) —where he faced challenges like fraudulent baptisms in Chile and an unexpected interview with Apostle Richard G. Scott—to Camille’s teenage struggles with modesty, faith and mental health. Their love story, temple experiences, and navigating higher callings in the Church, including Jared's time as a bishop, reveal the pressures and impacts of leadership roles.

Join us as we explore how these experiences transformed their lives, their perspectives on faith, and how their mental health and relationship have evolved since leaving the Church.

Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/mormon...

00:00:00 Intro
00:03:10 Intentions
00:11:51 How is basketball career went
00:20:44 Jared’s family system
00:25:29 Camille’s Mormon story
00:33:55 Struggling with modesty
00:44:28 Her biggest fears with Jared and their relationship
00:51:18 Her patriarchal blessing said she had the gift of faith
00:57:10 Her brother serving a mission and coming home early
01:08:44 Jared’s mission experience
01:16:17 Being asked to be interviewed by Richard G Scott
01:25:45 Serving his mission, having five mission presidents
01:35:21 Fraudulent baptisms in Chile
01:48:26 Their love story
01:50:00 Going through the temple for the first time
02:04:13 Having children and higher church callings
02:08:49 Disciplinary Councils and excommunications
02:14:19 What happens when someone is excommunicated?
02:30:19 Camille served in the Primary Presidency
02:35:24 Jared being called as a bishop
02:36:20 Friendships in the church
02:44:53 Keeping up with the Johnsons
02:54:32 During 2015 she couldn’t even function anymore
02:57:35 Depression among Mormon women in Utah
03:02:30 Jared get called as a bishop
03:06:07 How did she feel about being a bishop’s wife?
03:16:45 Best and worst things of being a bishop
03:23:24 How the church approaches porn is far more harmful than the porn itself
03:29:38 What parts didn’t he like about being a bishop?
03:44:32 Why being a bishop was so heavy and hard
03:48:46 The shelf items of Mormonism for Camille
03:51:50 Camille’s struggles with garments
03:59:49 Jared reaction to Camille and the children no longer going to church
04:05:44 Any training on the Gospel Topics Essays
04:23:40 He had a breakdown as a bishop
04:34:17 Jared literally thought he was going to die
04:42:00 Feeling unsupported after Jared was released as the bishop
04:56:54 Are they happier now? How is their mental health since leaving?

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