In Part 5 of the Church Trends series, John Mark Comer talks about the crisis in discipleship.

John Mark also dives into the stages of spiritual growth, why weekend services and sermons aren't resonating like they used to, and how to determine your real motives. John Mark Comer and Carey discuss what's wrong with today's church services and why they're perhaps not enough, and why John Mark's no longer traveling and speaking.

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Chapters
0:00:00 John Mark Comer and the Sunday Service
0:01:10 Welcome to the podcast
0:02:21 Stepping down from leading a church
0:06:30 The shadow side of the church model
0:14:48 Why church is underwhelming
0:35:48 Moving through the stages of spiritual formation
0:50:47 Determining our motivations
1:09:50 Practicing the way
1:21:00 Training versus trying