Dr. Jordan Peterson speaks with bestselling author Abigail Shrier. They discuss her landmark first book, “Irreversible Damage,” as well as her latest publication, available now: “Bad Therapy: Why The Kids Aren’t Growing Up". From this, they break down the state of the therapeutic industry, the overgrown tendency of professionals to “treat the well, rather than the sick,” the existence and need for necessary trauma, and the nowgenerational impact of harmful therapy, and by extension, harmful parenting.

Abigail Shrier received the Barbara Olson Award for Excellence and Independence in Journalism in 2021. Her bestselling book, Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters (2020), was named a “Best Book” by the Economist and the Times (of London). It has been translated into ten languages. Her upcoming publication, Bad Therapy: Why The Kids Aren’t Growing Up is slated for release in early 2024.

This episode was recorded on December 14th, 2023

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Chapters

(0:00) 2024 tour Info
(0:39) Coming up
(1:16) Intro
(2:51) “Irreversible Damage”: revisited
(5:56) It used to be hard to become a therapist
(7:32) What prompted Shrier to write “Bad Therapy”
(10:19) What’s wrong with trauma informed care?
(15:50) Chloe Cole, the evil of affirmation
(20:33) Is it “all social media”?
(23:30) Pressure from the professional governing boards
(27:15) Don’t hand your children to malicious strangers
(32:56) Self consciousness and misery are directly linked
(34:54) Happiness does not stem from self actualization
(37:10) We created the infrastructure for miserable lives
(38:18) The self esteem movement ruined independence and achievement
(41:22) Kids today are “afraid to even try”
(47:30) A terrible hypothesis for the toxic maternal instinct of modern women
(52:07) Why have parents lost faith in their children’s ability to cope?
(58:30) If you treat your children as if they are fragile, they will be more likely to break
(1:01:23) What trauma actually is
(1:05:02) Why trauma is necessary
(1:06:36) The Oedipal mother, a truth as old as symbolism
(1:09:40) The cure for of 80 percent of gender dysphoria is puberty
(1:12:30) The authority of the parent is the Childs model for what to become, soft parenting fails
(1:14:49) This is the first generation where the majority does not want kids
(1:19:15) The revelation of motherhood
(1:22:10) Something all truly great people do
(1:24:59) You must have faith that you child can succeed
(1:27:41) Take back your children: the subtraction technique
(1:30:12) Advice for facing disagreement with the parenting “experts” remember who loves your kids
(1:32:26) How Shrier’s writing has changed her life as a mother
(1:37:06) The role of the feminine in the landscape of the sacred


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